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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2009, 02:28 am »
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However, I am intimately familiar with being a defenseless being, a human child, in the hands of a violent psychologically-disturbed individual.

Camille needs some serious therapy.  I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it because it's true.  She's a very unhappy woman and she needs to learn how to address her issues in order to (hopefully) be happy one day.

She does need some help. I am also saying that out of compassion for those who have been abused.

However, when the bully plays the victim card as a justification for continuing down a dangerous road, we can not allow ourselves to lose track of the impact of their actions.

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2009, 03:30 am »
Thereapy is useless, there is only one humane option to be in any moral consideration when treating this poor, poor abused animal.

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2009, 06:53 am »
Thank You! Blog material?  :D

I think I just might add it to mine.
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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2009, 07:36 am »
Was that a request or an assumption?

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2009, 10:28 am »
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However, I am intimately familiar with being a defenseless being, a human child, in the hands of a violent psychologically-disturbed individual.

Camille needs some serious therapy.  I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it because it's true.  She's a very unhappy woman and she needs to learn how to address her issues in order to (hopefully) be happy one day.

She does need some help. I am also saying that out of compassion for those who have been abused.

However, when the bully plays the victim card as a justification for continuing down a dangerous road, we can not allow ourselves to lose track of the impact of their actions.

true this
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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2009, 04:25 pm »
I've been tracking the site "Liveleak" the last two days because they are posting up to the minute stuff on the cop killer here in Washington State. (they think they have him located right now and he may be deceased from wounds received during the event, but are just surrounding this house)


AAaanyway....

Someone has been up loading a series of videos through out this time, on the topic of dolphin fishing in Japan.

Ya, it's an ARA film about the "murder" of dolphins!!   :rolleyes:

What caught my eye was the preamble to the video said.."This is a MUST SEE documentary about a recent exposition of mass slaughter of dolphins in Taiji Japan. Also, mercury poisioning of the oceans. Any dumass comments will be removed. I couldn't give half of a shit about your excuses either. Those who can appreciate the depth of this, please enjoy and become aware."

Of course it's a very graphic, bloody video, painted in the most compelling of details.

 :D So looking at the comments and this morons replies made me look at their page to what else they had up loaded.

What do you know. They have up loaded a total of 3 documentaries, broken up into 8 to 10 small videos. Two of the documentaries are graphic ARA shit, and the third....  the third is.. you guessed it about "snuff films." All about the erotica of killing, blood and gore.

Once again, sitting inside the same package of the brain of an ARA is the social out rage about animal killing (via film, not real life of course) and the love of snuff films, and yet they can not see in themselves this monster.

I'm trying to decide what to do with this. Take screen shots, then point it out to him? Post the link here and sick you all on the guy? LOL

What do you think?

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2009, 10:20 am »
Without regard to whether there is a general duty to aid a person in distress, there is a clearly recognized legal duty of every person to avoid any affirmative acts which may make a situation worse. "f the defendant does attempt to aid him, and takes charge and control of the situation, he is regarded as entering voluntarily into a relation which is attended with responsibility. * * * Such a defendant will then be liable for a failure to use reasonable care for the protection of the plaintiff's interests." Prosser, supra, � 56, pp 343-344. "Where performance clearly has been begun, there is no doubt that there is a duty of care." Id 346.
 
Generally, these types of laws were put into place to protect off-duty healthcare workers (like myself) from facing lawsuits when we stop to offer assistance. I'm pretty sure this does not apply to a family member who sits idly by and watches their mother starve to death. A law like this would not protect me from any punishment if it were a case of neglect against a family member.
 
As for releasing emotions, EMS is known to have a very black humor. It is our way of decompressing after having to perform CPR on a 6 month old infant. Something I have personally done. However, the humor is not usually directed towards our patient in most instances.
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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2009, 01:31 pm »
OmniverousMedic, I totally understand EMS, firefighters, doctors and police sometimes having a lot of black humor regarding things like this. I've seen it myself and even decompressed this way going to the events for other reasons. Unfortunately, what we see as a stress relief for our sanity others such as ARs see as being this sociopath type behavior. I think if they spent 24 hours in any of those positions as an observer, I think they'd have a better appreciation of what they tend to make serious comments about - wishing omnivores would die.

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2009, 04:29 pm »
I think they are not dealing well with death and dying in the first place. Not only that, but not being able to reconcile the animal part of themselves that does want to annihilate and destroy.

It's a task we all must come to terms with, manage, accept, and channel into healthy outlets. Like I said, it is their *fear* of this part of themselves that is driving their sick behavior and rabid hatred of meat eaters.

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2009, 06:23 pm »
Last winter we went to a single vehicle rollover involving a woman and her two dogs. The dogs were secured in kennels in the back of her Jeep. When the vehicle rolled, the dogs were ejected from the kennels and both fled the scene (a given since they were terrified to be sure). One of the animals was brought back to an area near the scene and gently placed on the shoulder of the road. No blanket or anything. Then, a group of about 3 people stood around the dog wondering what to do. That was what we found when we got on scene. After requesting the animal be taken to the vet and giving directions, a couple of them scooped up the dog and left. The other dog returned to the scene of the collision the next day looking for it's owner.
 
The dog found on scene died shortly after arriving at the vet. The animal was completely "worked" ( a term we use to refer to the fact that full rescusitative measures were taken). I personally called the vet to find out the status of the animal. The owner didn't take it well.
 
Although I eat meat (and, I'm sure, so does the woman in the accident), it doesn't mean that an animal suffering and/or dying doesn't affect us.
 
I have seen over many years the atrocities humans can commit against animals and themselves. As a Desert Storm vet, I've seen war up close. As a medic, I have seen what poor decisions on the road can result in.
 
However, to attempt to justify using these images in a campaign to win people over to your side of an argument is reprehensible and in poor taste.
 
I also date a butcher who used to work at a slaughterhouse. So, I have firsthand knowledge of where the meat on my table comes from.
 
Take your rhetoric and spew it in some other direction because it won't do any good. It's like training a pig to sing. It is a waste of your time.......and it annoys the pig.
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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2009, 07:57 pm »
You know on a visceral level what life and death is about. No need to avoid it for those of us who do.

People who want to see gore are booting camping their psyche and also dealing with their fears in a constructive manner. You can never inoculate your self against grief and trauma, but you can surely face reality with some grace and strength.

That in no way means you are not devastated by the loss of a loved one, human or animal. Being able to butcher an animal for food noes not equate to a lack of compassion, as much as they would like to say it does.

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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2009, 09:33 am »
That in no way means you are not devastated by the loss of a loved one, human or animal. Being able to butcher an animal for food noes not equate to a lack of compassion, as much as they would like to say it does.

Exactly. I don't get any form of perverse pleasure thinking of what cattle and swine go through prior to becoming my supper. But, neither do I mourn their death and decide to forgo having meat or using animal products. It's an imperfect world where one form of life has to end for another to continue.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
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Re: Radical ARA's and Blood Lust
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2009, 05:03 pm »
That in no way means you are not devastated by the loss of a loved one, human or animal. Being able to butcher an animal for food noes not equate to a lack of compassion, as much as they would like to say it does.

Exactly. I don't get any form of perverse pleasure thinking of what cattle and swine go through prior to becoming my supper. But, neither do I mourn their death and decide to forgo having meat or using animal products. It's an imperfect world where one form of life has to end for another to continue.

But, *I* think that is perfectly beautiful! I seriously want to go out to the woods to die, when my time comes, and let the animals dispose of my remains.

I think watching a hunt by lions is beautiful. I think it is all right and good and "The Circle Of Life Simba"

 


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